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August 1 at 8:15am

5 Things I Learned About Selling Films from Selling Fashion on eBay

By Tina Poppy

If you asked me how I came to the film world and I told you I essentially started by selling vintage clothing on eBay, you would probably think I answered the wrong question. This myopic line of thinking is exactly why you might think it’s hard to make, sell, and distribute a film. When I started selling on eBay 10 years ago, it was like the Wild Wild West – there were no instruction manuals or established models for success. I was trying to figure out how to sell something that my customers couldn’t touch or feel (or even see that well, as I still had no idea how to operate a camera).

The new world of independent film is looking more and more like this uncharted territory everyday. With existing consumption patterns becoming outdated, crowdfunding emerging as the new normal, and myriad new digital distribution models developing, there’s really no *one* right way to get your film made, sold, or seen.

Here are five things I learned from selling on eBay that might help:

1. EMBRACE YOUR LIMITATIONS

Whatever your limitations – be they time, budget, or resources – consider them guideposts towards focusing on what you have the ability to control. Having too many choices can paralyze the decision-making process. Working with the resources you have available rather than focusing on the “if only” of what you think you need will help funnel your efforts in an efficient way. Work with what you’ve got. Decide, and move forward.

When I first started selling clothing, I made a game of it with myself. I would take $20 to the local thrift store, fill up my cart with cool things, then figure out which few things would allow me to turn my $20 into more than $20. That attitude resulted in buying a dress for $5 that sold at auction for $750. We shouldn’t always be cheapskates, but it’s helpful to consider that great things can be accomplished with very little.

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All things are not equal. Some are totally unnecessary.

 

2. OBSERVE AND BE FLEXIBLE

The crumbling parts of the film industry suffer from a severe case of narrow-mindedness. Clinging to the way the industry has historically worked isn’t as helpful as observing even minor successes in the current landscape. If you can neutrally observe what works and what doesn’t in terms of presenting your film, you might uncover creative solutions and be able to make changes more fluidly.

When selling online, I would maintain some regularity to how and when I would list items for sale, but within that framework I would make small changes to the way I photographed and described items weekly. I tried listing auctions on different times and different days of the week, changed my vocabulary, used more or less enthusiastic punctuation, etc. You can definitely overdo it and never realize what’s really helping, but if you observe and explore, small modifications can make a huge difference.

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I wanted a cool background, but the background here distracts from the very rare and incredible piece. The background on the right is easier on the eyes – some would argue that even the blue is too much.

3. ENLIST PEOPLE TO HELP – AND PAY THEM

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Don’t do anything that requires facemasks alone.

Forget “friend rates” and working for free. If you pay people a decent fee for their work, they’ll be invested in your work. You’ll gain their support both during the project and after, when you’ll need people posting on social media and helping promote your film.

The first freelance photo editor I hired was also one of my best friends. But as a freelancer she went where the money was, so after deciding on a friend rate, I found she’d place my work squarely at the bottom of her to do list. After angrily deciding we couldn’t work together, we took a break, spoke a few months later, decided on a reasonable fee, and we’ve been co-existing as friends and colleagues ever since.

4. CREATE PERSONAL ENGAGEMENT

Part of what bothers me about overdependence on CGI is that I’m a real, live person. And while anthropomorphized robots as a concept *sounds* humanistic, the requisite visual perfection of CGI somewhat dismantles our ability to feel for Optimus Prime in the same way we might for R2D2. Feeling for, relating to, and caring about characters engages your audience. Engagement breeds attachment not just for the characters themselves but for the film itself and consequently for you as its creator. So just as you would develop a character for a film, you can develop the character *of* the film. Personality and engagement matters across every level and at every step.

When I was first figuring out how to photograph and present clothing online, I used a cheap half-mannequin barely resembling a body – it was more of a hanging triangle. Clothing would droop on it like some sad sack. Clipping a dress to make it look more shapely helped slightly, but ultimately a human body became necessary. At first, I’d crop my head and feet out of the photos as unnecessary, but I quickly realized people responded more to my face than to anything. My face isn’t special, but it’s more memorable than a hanging triangle, and when you see it every day you will likely respond to it if for no other reason than it’s familiar to you. Give your project an identity, a face, a character – someone human to respond to.

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There’s a reason we like ‘putting face to a name’ – The mannequin was lifeless; cropping my head and feet out added some personality; adding a face showed my emotions – and that helped.

5. LEVERAGE THE DIGITAL WORLD

Everyone who has a stake in anything online talks about content. As filmmakers, you have a stake in the online world because that’s where your audience begins (and ends!). You can create content before and beyond your film, and you can share it online in an accessible and engaging format. Constant, creative digital marketing will help build the community that will bolster your projects.

After realizing I had become a digital representation of my brand of vintage clothing, I began developing a personal online presence through every available platform. Social media often seemed like a colossal waste of time – if you’re anything like me, you admonish yourself for spending too much time on social media as though it’s time that could be better spent “working,” i.e. contributing to the bottom line and focusing on “getting things done.” But I found then, as I do now more than ever, that even seemingly trivial interactions with people online can forge connections, relationships, and a larger sense of community that’s indispensable to everything I want to create.

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Drafthouse’s CHEAP THRILLS utilized a “Share to Dare” campaign to engage audience through social media and their own website.

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A24’s OBVIOUS CHILD engaged audiences with its own Twitter account – and stayed in character while tapping into the current socio-political milieu.

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Tribeca Film’s BENEATH THE HARVEST SKY partnered with Terra Chips for an innovative marketing collaboration that began before the film was even shot.

 Tina Poppy runs a social collective supporting women working in film and television alongside actress Brie Larson. A former Director of Development at a film non-profit, Tina currently consults on gender-related issues within the film community.  She earned her Master’s degree in Humanities from the University of Chicago and founded VioletvilleVintage.com as a successful commerce vintage clothing boutique in 2004.


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  1. cj / Aug 1 at 8:15am

    Excellent cognates and tactics. EBay’s funnel, tech and operational stacks are more highly evolved than the several film dist. products and are transactionally based giving the seller transparent numbers and a quick read on what works and what doesn’t. The seller has far more product information. Do you foresee an Ebay-style film dist. platform?

  2. Jennifer Fischer / Aug 1 at 8:15am

    Great tips. I would say all of these are the reasons I’ve been able to be successful with my latest ultra-low/micro-budget film, SMUGGLED. We started squarely with tip #1, essentially, creating a compelling story that took advantage of locations we knew we had access to. We also evolved with our distribution approach after we decided to self-distribute and found success in the academic marketplace, something we had no real knowledge of before we made the film, but which has been perfect for this project. We’re also using what we learned from the project and using the concepts shared here as we develop our next project, which will be a web-series. There are so many possibilities for indie filmmakers right now, especially if they are savvy like Tina!

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